Showing posts with label Vangsnes. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Vangsnes. Show all posts

Wednesday, February 22, 2012

Population of Vangsnes

Some interesting information about the population of Vangsnes. I would have thought there were more people!

Vangsnes population (census based)
1801: 138
1825: 153
1865: 260
1875: 293
1900: 216

Earlier times
1348: estimated population (black plague): 85-120
1522: 8 tax-paying farmers (with families)
1710: 10 farmers (with families)

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Anne says:
The source is the Balvoll book (2008) which I recommended, with lots of corrections from the older bygdebooks in the area.

Tuesday, September 13, 2011

Vangsnes, Le, Nistad

Vangsness, Le, Nistad

These are the 3 farms associated with our family.

Wilda Obey continues,
All 3 farms you mention are in Vik. Vangsnes is a peninsula near the main part of Vik, which is called Vik, Vik. Vangsnes is now the main ferry terminal to cross the Sognefjord from Vik to Balestrand and Leikanger. It is a very large farm with many sub farms = many different families living there. Le and Nistad are in the Arnafjord part of Vik. This is a remote, mountainous, beautiful area with small farms with only one or a few families living at each farm.

Go to Vikjavev.no for more complete listing of all farms, history, and other interesting material.


The Le Farm
Lie/Lee is a very common name, meaning meadow or pasture, and possibly the Lee in question is a sub farm of a larger farm.

 © Torstein Hønsi

To quote from the Vikjavev.no site:
Le (ON *Liðin from lið 'field gate' and vin 'meadow, pasture') is one of the oldest farms in Arnafjorden, and before machines became common in agriculture, the steep fields at Le were considered very good farmlands. The Le farms have got their mountain farms at Bjergane.

 © Torstein Hønsi

The Nistad Farm

© Torstein Hønsi.

To quote from the Vikjavev.no site:
Nistad (not interpreted) must be populated about viking age, according to the 'stad'-ending. Nistad's summer farm is Skoddesete and the spring farm is Dragsbotnen.

The Vangsnes Farm

 © Torstein Hønsi.

 © Torstein Hønsi.
To quote from the Vikjavev.no site:
Vangsnes has probably got it's name fromVangsen 'the ploughshare', a sunken rock in the fjord off Vangsnes. Nes is 'point'. In the older days there were three distinct house clusters at Vangsnes: Indreneset, Midtun and Ytreneset. The summer farms belonging to the Vangsnes farms are Kallbakk, Kleivadalen, Endresete, Godstøl and Gjelet.

Bygdaboks

What are Bygdaboks
We are receiving help in looking for our relatives from Wilda Obey, a member of the Genealogical Society in her part of Minnesota. She has 3 bygdeboks for the Sognefjord area of Norway; Leikanger Vik and Balestrand. She was first in contact with Dave Vangsness and I was able to contact her with Dave's help. She has copies of several other important resources from the Vik area.

Thank you so much, Wilda!!

Wilda Obey says:

Bygdbok is bok = book and bygd = a rural community.

These books list all of the farms in one area of Norway, by farm. They usually start at about 1600 and mention the name of the farmers there then. They mention his wife and children and usually give some dates, by year only. They tell where the children went or who they married if they left the farm. It continues on with who lived at the farm down to the early 1900s.

Arkivvet is the Norwegian spelling of archive. (That is v v not w) This is online and has actual church pages and these are of baptisms, marriages, burials and also vaccination, confirmation, and those coming into and leaving the parish. It also has some censuses, not the actual page, but a transcription, and emigration information.

Names
Our first ancestor to come to America is named Iver Endreson, Nistad, his wife is Unni Andersdattor.

Wilda always tell everyone not to worry about spelling. There are several different ways to spell almost every personal name and the farm names. In Norway a child was usually named for a grandparent, sibling of the parents or first spouse who had died of either parent.

The patronym, Endreson, means he is the son of Endre. Endre's daughters would be Endresdatter, and they kept this name for life, as even after marriage, they are still Endre's daughter. The last name, Vangsnes, Lie, Nistad is the farm name. This should be thought of more as an address than as a permanent name. 

Iver/Ivar Endreson may have been born at Nistad, married and lived at Lie/Lee/Le (which is the Le in Arnafjord, Vik) and then moved to Vangsnes and taken that name. 

In the U.S. they could use the farm name, or the patronym, usually choosing a name that Yanks could pronounce and not make fun of. Or they might take a more Anglicized name, often starting with the same first letter as the original name.

Monday, September 12, 2011

Fridtjof the Bold

The Frithjof's Saga

File:Statue av Fridtjov den frøkne oppført av Vilhelm II.jpg
Fridtjof the Bold              Photo By: Ssolbergj
In Vik, Vangsnes, there is a small peninsula or point where this statue is located. This is Fridtjof, the Bold from The Frithjof Saga.

Friðþjófs saga hins frœkna (Frithiof's Saga) is a legendary saga from Iceland which in its present form is from ca 1300. It is a continuation from The Saga of Thorstein Víkingsson (Þorsteins saga Víkingssonar). It takes place principally in the Vik area of Norway during the 8th century.

Shelly Sylvester summarized the story something like this:

This big fellow is a local viking hero. He wanted to marry Ingebjørg, the daughter of King Bele from the other side of the fjord where Fridtjof lived (Vangsnes).

Fridtjof and Ingebjørg grew up together on the farm Hilding (one of the largest farms in Sogn at the time, situated further in the fjord). But when Fridtjof wanted to marry Ingebjørn her brothers tried to put a stop to it, because they wanted her to marry the powerful King Ring of Ringerike (east Norway), to avoid a big war with him. To make this happen the brothers sent Fridtjof on a trip to the Orkney islands telling him to collect taxes and hoping to be rid of him for good. Then they made Ingebjørg marry King Ring and robbed and burned Fridtjof's home farm on Vangsnes.

When Fridjof came back and saw what had happened to his home farm and Ingebjørg he burned the Grand farm that Ingebjørgs brothers lived on in Balestrand, and stole back the ring he had given to Ingebjørg before he left on the mission her brothers cooked up. Now he was lawless and left to raid foreign countries for treasures - that is to say, he went on Viking Raids!! After 3 years on the run he returned to Ringerike making himself out to be an old man that wanted to see his old girlfriend Ingebjørg. The old King liked Fridtjof and promised that he could have Ingebjørg as his own wife when the old king passed away to stop him going on another raid. Soon after the old King died.

Fridtjof took Ingebjørg as his wife and controlled the kingdom until the old king's sons where of age. They didn't like Fridtjof so they went to war against him. In one battle Fridtjof killed one of the sons while the other begged for his life and Fridtjof let him live. After this Fridtjof became King of all of Sogn and made Hordaland part of his kingdom too.
What is a SAGA

According to Wikipedia:
The setting is primarily Scandinavia, but occasionally it moves temporarily to more distant and exotic locations. There are also very often mythological elements, such as dwarfs, elves, giants and magic. In centuries past, they were considered to be reliable historic sources by Scandinavian scholars, but since the 19th century, they have been considered to contain very little historic material. The present consensus is that, although some of the sagas contain a small core which is not fiction, or are based on historical characters, the primary function of the legendary sagas was entertainment, and the aim of the sagas has not been to present a historically accurate tale. Recently, however, it has been emphasized that the sagas are useful sources for the culture of 13th and 14th century Iceland, "in terms of the light that they can shed on the culture in which they were composed" i.e. Iceland in the later Middle Ages.

The statue in the picture was given to the county of Vik in 1913 by the German Emperor Wilhelm II. The statue of Fridtjof the Bold stands 22.5 m tall and it located on Vangsnes Point.

New Map of Vik and Area

If you click on the maps, I believe they will open in your browser and one more click will enlarge it. These two maps show all the farms in the Vik - Sognafjord area.

Wilda Obey says:
The Map #1 with Vik at the south edge and Balestrand across - shows Vangsnes and its ferry routes. The Berge farm in Balestrand is further north and not on this map page. It is on the Fjaerlandsfjord and is fairly close to Mundal where U. S. VP and ambassador to Japan Walter Mondale had ancestors.

The Map #2 is of the southern part of Vik and shows the Lee (here spelled Lee but it must be your Le) and Nissestad farms.

Map #1
Kartbok for Vest Landet Copyright Bergens Tidende, 1985
Click here for PDF version of Map #1 that can be enlarged to see farms more clearly.

Map #2
Kartbok for Vest Landet Copyright Bergens Tidende, 1985
Click here for a PDF version of Map #2 that can be enlarged to see farms more clearly.

A Little Bit About Vangsness

The Ploughshare
Vik
Vangsnes is a village in the parish of Vik, Sogn go Fjordane County.

The Vikjavev Home Page says:
Vangsnes most likely got it name from Vangsen, "The Ploughshare", a sunken rock in the fjord off Vangsnes. "Nes" means "point".

This home page is really beautiful, with lots of photos and daily weather-of-the-day photos of Vik, listings and photos of the farms and much interesting information.
http://vikjavev.no/

If you jump to the Vikjavey Home Page, they have a photo updated daily showing Vangsness. There is also a clickable map with photos of farms.

History link. Go to Vik i Sogn though the centuries to read a short history of Vik

Long ago, there were 3 distinct areas where people lived in Vangsnes:
  • Indreneset,
  • Midtun,
  • Ytreneset.
It seems in Norway at the time, there were summer farms and winter farms.
Norway farms.jpg
The summer farms that were part of Vangsness district are:
  • Kallbakk,
  • Kleivadalen,
  • Endresete,
  • Godstol and
  • Gjelet

Notice one of the farms is called Endresete, which is close of some of the names found among our ancestors: Endre...

Originally, up to 1837, Vangsnes was in Leikanger parish.
In 1850, Balestrand was established and Vangsness was transferred there.
The last and most recent governmental change came in 1964, when Vangsnes was transferred to Vik parish.